i in some cases miss this version people impressive video games made an interactive matrix experience to display its upcoming unbelievable engine 5 at this year'' s game honors we sat down with both stars of the demo and the matrix movies keanu reeves and carrie anne moss to discuss exactly how the innovation is blurring the line between what'' s actual and also virtual what to expect from the brand-new matrix rebirths flick and a great deal more delay can you make use of unbelievable and also porn [Songs] hi i'' m thomas anderson so this interactive experience that you all fired it'' s really different from a great deal of points that have been made before it'' s using advanced modern technology i'' d love to understand what was the process like of of making this the concept was initial propositioned to us by lana right and afterwards it was recommendation to me doing this presentation using this new innovation from legendary which we would certainly be doing a type of intro to it right so what was that like doing that opening that she composed and also after that additionally later on individuals don'' t recognize if it ' s the actual you or the fake you the concept of doing something like this originating from the writer of the matrix and afterwards taking this innovation and you know weding it and also having a kind of you recognize what ' s genuine what isn ' t genuine discussion as well as what can that be'as well as what may it develop into as well as you recognize below ' s kind of below with where we ' re at for this right and also you ' re fully digital in this experience what is that like seeing like a fully digital version of yourself like that due to the fact that you ' ve done games mass impacts like however seeing that is it'yeah since it ' s intriguing it ' s trippy to see myself this way keanu the more youthful variation of you they actually took video footage from the initial trilogy i think they discovered it in some safe someplace as well as recreated it made it contemporary what was it like seeing like a younger variation of on your own like that yeah i suggest i type of have to take my very own type of like oh that doesn'' t appearance actual or otherwise real yet yet likewise just to see the younger version of it'yeah it ' s trippy i need to claim just enjoying it recently and also seeing your face more from currently to then yeah i think you'' re a lot more handsome currently oh my god sorry i mean i understand i i can'' t i put on ' t desire to take it into that superficial place but i wear ' t recognize if that is honestly the idea of looks as well as beauty is not a shower your similarity can then be made use of for various other things though and also that'' s the crazy concept of this right is that there might be electronic versions of you as a performer that might in theory be made use of in means that are not you acting yeah no i indicate i assume that'' s component of like what ' s real not genuine and that ' s the designer who'' s the supervisor of the product right marlon brando said that with the dick donner superman right so he was currently considering oh wow why you know this is my you currently videoed me you already shot you currently put in the computer so i suggest he led the game too like now you can have your electronic ip like i know for me in films i can'' t be digitally changed without approval as well as i did that means when yep you recognize you'' re type of licensing in an unusual way we ' re licensing our performances in such a way as well with modifying in the very first area right however i assumption if you'' re developing it and like making that character then do whatever you desire but after that you might do several tasks bring on you might simply stay home you might simply stay home or carry out at a more youthful age or execute yep when you'' re retired or whenever i suggest i assume that'' s the whole aspect of this kind of globe that'' s coming to be a growing number of actual um so you wouldn'' t require the actual physical experience of making it it could simply be done in a computer it'' s puppetry right'it ' s computer system puppetry it'' s the male you could be wherever you wish to be it'' s fascinating what do you think about like the blog post amusing element of it like carrie fisher and celebrity battles where possibly even after you'' re gone right like your likeness might be used have you thought of like you have that where you need to confirm exactly how your similarity is made use of yeah i indicate i know a pair of years back my agency i mean there'' s agencies currently where they'' ll record your electronic self to develop electronic content as well as you recognize you might maybe move your similarity to the estate right they'' re already doing that right and also there'' s additionally an aspect of this where video games and also motion pictures are melding somewhat right as well as this experience accesses that a little bit but i indicate with unreal i think part of what legendary is doing is that you can take things developed for a motion picture and also port them over to a video game making use of the exact same objects and the other way around that'' s modern technology that they ' re creating so i mean what does that mean for state any type of motion picture where you might just make a game from it and it'' s the very same ip it ' s the exact same things that you made for the motion picture yeah yeah i presume it'' s the plasticity of pictures i wear'' t know it depends i suggest'if we ' re chatting from a capitalistic system you understand i believe it'' s constantly mosting likely to be portioned and i assume it'' s always going to be sold so it'' s simply more points to sell i suggest i'' m sorry extra things to produce i ' m sorry more things to offer however i imply they ' re also bringing the device to the to to the individual right so you know you could be able to produce your you ' ll have the ability to certify probably ips ideal so does the concept of like making a usable flick is that compelling to either of you yeah i hunch so i suggest i presume that'' s not the ending i desired i don'' t know you actually can take the pill yourself right yeah i guess what i like concerning making movies is the being with each other being completely which human part of it it'' s what i enjoy concerning it that ' s what i constantly liked regarding the matrix was that i always really felt so although individuals would constantly assume that so much of it was environment-friendly screen therefore much of it was unique effects and yet that wasn'' t my experience of doing it we did every little thing you understand i feel like it'' s the first time in a long period of time that that the genuine globe is practically in advance of our scientific research fiction i indicate rationale of attempting to seek like when can we make it photo genuine when can we fool i indicate every one of the deep fake you understand modern technologies that are occurring wow yeah it hurts the mind no no however i mean it'' s like it'' s it'' s it ' s nearly you recognize it ' s like we ' re it ' s the why right we can ' t we need to keep the species needs to maintain developing the types resembles oh i can do that allow ' s maintain mosting likely to do that you understand and no person can anticipate the'future i put on'' t i wear ' t recognize i was'having supper with a buddy ' s home this director and also he had some children and there was like a 13 year old a 15 years of age 17 year old as well as the uh they hadn ' t seen the film the matrix as well as so the supervisor was like well why put on ' t you simply inform them what it ' s about so i start to claim well there'' s this person that ' s in a type of digital world and he figures out that there ' s a real life and also he ' s really questioning what ' s real as well as not real and also he truly'desires to understand what ' s actual as well as the young lady resembled why as well as i resembled what do you mean she resembled who cares if it ' s genuine and i resembled but you put on'' t you wear ' t treatment if it ' s real as well as she was like no isn ' t that wild it'' s outstanding you think it ' s awesome i imply it ' s awesome i mean it ' s awesome i mean yep this idea of that you know so in such a way what you and i are kind of talking around is type of like a heritage feeling we'' re nearly like oh you'' re older versions simply let it go i know i'' m the mom at the kitchen table like speaking about the possibility of like an online world for my children and i'' m weeping you know like that'' s just how it really feels for me and now i simply i wear ' t understand just type of like relaxing the table as well as chatting no no yet you ' ll be able to relax at your table and talking and also suppose it ' s not a real table what happens if i wear ' t know oh you imperial or not well that ' s that ' s the other question also which which is just one of the problems that we ' re being yeah faced by extremely rapidly a well-known tech investor claimed something when that truly stuck with me he said that for most individuals the virtual globe will be a lot more compelling than their the real world so why would certainly you not strap on a vr headset and also be able to be with a person throughout the globe at a digital gambling enterprise right oh yeah for sure i mean yeah certainly therefore like what do you what i don'' t understand what the globe resembles when we get there yet we'' re arriving i indicate it ' s taking place can we just not have metaverse be like created by facebook you'' re not a follower no however just the principle of metaverse resembles means older than it is old snow collision yeah it'' s like a method older and also so for that minute to get to i'' m just like come on guy do you think it ' s dystopian like the means the original matrix kind of presented all this is like kind of dystopian where technology was headed like do you think the meta versus every person'' s discussing it currently i mean yep because it'' s you recognize i indicate it ' s additionally you recognize'it ' s material creation it'' s fine it ' s financial development right cryptocurrency are either of you into cryptocurrency personally a buddy of mine acquired some for me a while back so but you haven'' t done anything with it i sanctuary'' t had to it ' s simply sitting there appreciate it it'' s simply like it'' s probably excellent just it ' s just it ' s they call that resort just to sit there with it it ' s called hodl when you simply put on ' t touch your crypto also if it tanks a little you gather it yeah so you ' re huddling your tools yeah i have a little hole um did you guys see the matrix nft point that they provided for resurrections simply a couple days ago they know they made uh nfts for the new movie and also there resembled 100 000 of them as well as the website broke like in the initial few hours due to the fact that there were over 300 000 people in the line up attempting to acquire these nfts for 50 therefore like when you consider the concept of electronic scarcity as well as things that are you recognize they can'' t be copied that are quickly duplicated well however they'' re not the same right it ' s not fake variation of you i question what are do we obtain a cut of that oh no i wear'' t actually i don ' t assume we ' re in them they most likely did other individuals you have to take that up with the studio i know there was a leak of the experience on like the playstation web server as well as it obtained a great deal of attention that there was this matrix experience happening that you people were in and i was taking a look at the reddit thread where it was posted and everyone was simply saying i want a matrix computer game i want a modern you know reimagining of the matrix video clip well it'' s so it ' s outrageous that there isn'' t one would you do one if if they came to you and stated'i suggest exactly how i indicate aren ' t there clever individuals who run these firms aren ' t they ' re meant like the followers actually want it right so if they came to you and they stated we'' re going to do it brother ' s simply like where'' s the ball uh oh you suggest the ball you went down 15 years earlier so you would do it if they pertained to you and also stated allow'' s do it allow ' s do a full correct video game would you both do it yeah i indicate we'' d have to review the manuscript i ' m sorry i have to read this i ' ll do whatever he does anyway it ' s an extremely exciting time i would certainly like to simply type of talk a little about the brand-new motion picture and hear um kind of what attracted you back to this famous franchise business so many years later what was it that obtained you both was it just a telephone call from lana was it that simple for me it resembled much like a prompt of course mm-hmm yeah it'' s lana rachelski yeah very same point entirely it was interesting the trailers make it appear like it'' s an extremely meta so there ' s a great deal of self-referential stuff going on so it'' s very amusing it'' s amusing yeah and it ' s it seems like a genuine experience you'go in such as this total from the min it'begins you ' re on this trip and also it ' s it ' s i i believe it ' s truly enjoyable actually great romantique really enchanting a great deal of love excellent love story still some excellent old-fashioned matrix social cultural ideological discourse suggestions excellent action good action remarkable efficiencies yeah when you recall at like what the original matrix flicks were claiming about where tech was headed how does the brand-new movie type of suit is it is it looking in advance once more like years out is it you recognize like is it much more in the now is it responding to the concerns i put on'' t recognize i imply i assume the movies have always been a type of a tool that you can use like you got the matrix tool you know to believe about the globe you stay in to think of the globe itself i imply and also what are the systems either of control or and afterwards also checking out what love is or you know just how we our area disobedience what do we defend looking at you know exactly how do you think of self and also selfhood and also free choice and selection as well as it gives you a method to think about points appropriate and also to look at the world as well as i think rebirths is certainly a device that we can look at today as well as will probably take us right into tomorrow if you were to assume back on the original matrix backstory as well as canon would it look any different with expertise of like just how technology in fact turned out in the year 2021 do you think it was kind of spot on with where we'' re headed or yes when you state tech do you imply the suggestion of a virtual truth that is identical from truth yeah and also you understand computer systems that are coming close to or going beyond really you recognize human level knowledge right i mean i believe even the trilogy enters into man-made identification synthetic knowledge and afterwards identification and also also after that type of was taking this suggestion of being i'' m mosting likely to utilize antiquated however being digital into the real globe right into flesh and also i believe resurrections continues that technological concept of cellular phone and identification for um i'' ll simply call it artificial intelligence or programs which is type of what we'' re doing also currently when we'' re attempting to have you know principles in programs as well as moral controls and also you know the fundamental version of wear'' t hurt the human mm-hmm google as well as these big technology firms have ethicists best yeah digital values assists would either of you simulate a vr job specifically as these headsets improve are you curious about that from like a storytelling viewpoint since i liked your initial response it relies on the script i guess right the story so most definitely understand that i it'' s not that i i recognize that'i put on ' t understand as well as that ' s type of where i ' m living i guess now is being interested and additionally holding like well for my individual life like what i hold sacred you recognize which is the genuine yeah keanu what about you vr narration is it is it engaging to you um yeah yeah do you have a virtual reality headset do you use it directly i do i put on'' t i recognize that any kind of vr modern technology that i ' m utilizing is five years of ages and lame i'' m sorry never ever utilized to be unsatisfactory it'' s possibly currently modernly called unsatisfactory but uh there'' s a lot sort of information collection devices that are in these experiences to help make the product much better [Laughter] being used for medicine obviously these developments are necessary and excellent um do you play computer game no no actually no also cyberpunk no i indicate i'' ve seen presentations but i'' ve never played it did you understand that in cyberpunk there they were hacking a character you were the most asked for hack to make a character that you could make love with be you be your personality yes as well as it got to a point where the the video game programmer stated no you can'' t do this due to the fact that we'' re uncertain if we have consent to do this but i mean now that i have you like what do you think of that oh my god it'' s always nice when it'' s nice and also you understand yep it was love i on the other hand state no thanks so that'' s adequate thanks however keanu'' s purchasing with us think about just how much money is very important right so you could not also need to exist as well as people could have electronic sex with your digital avatar what'' s that what ' s it called right currently for members just you can all do a whole point oh my god as well as then you get the suit that'' s most likely made in sweden or some german point oh my god and afterwards you'' ve got the video clip i do not live to see this oh my god and also then they'' ve got the information on you with your like um your stimulation metrics oh my gosh i did not see this conversation right below so then you'' re in the match with arousal metrics with your members only metaverse x god aid us therefore after that you'' re like take whatever off and after that just how do you feel about the connections you'' re in appropriate wonderful what is actual what is not ideal but after that you hold that real point as well as you'' re like oh i ' m so glad we have reality you ' re gon na be hit up as resembling a primary creative police officer of some porn technology firm currently oh my gosh he'' d be big um i ' ll be the ethicist or whatever well those are my inquiries i mean i seem like we covered a whole lot of ground yeah i really hope that wasn'' t as well unpleasant no not all appropriate thanks it was enjoyable thank you thanks thanks the advertising and marketing individuals marketing i believed we were supposed to have overall imaginative control welcome to the matrix
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